"I will remain in the same seat by 2027," Sir Keir Starmer declared, adding that if the interview was successful, he might invite us into Downing Street for another chat next year.
There is rarely ever time off for those in the top job. Shortly before we sat down, Sir Keir had been in calls with Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky and working to decipher precisely had transpired in Venezuela, where his key political chum, US President Donald Trump, had recently targeted and seized its leader, Nicolás Maduro.
Once our lengthy talk, which was much longer than normal, had ended, Maduro had been charged in New York.
As the year starts, Starmer appears to have had something of a refresh. Perhaps even just some a rest with his family at Chequers, the prime minister's country retreat.
This seemed to have put him in improved morale than at the difficult conclusion of 2025, a awful year politically for him.
Yet, are he and his supporters being unrealistic if they think his political fate are about to improve?
The grisly reality for the leader is that a significant number of his colleagues are convinced he's underperforming at his job. Some of them would rather gamble and get him out this year.
However Starmer was having none of it in the interview on Saturday morning.
Multiple times he insisted he'd be "evaluated at the poll", maintaining nobody would take his electoral mandate from him – despite the fact that the optimal path of preventing Nigel Farage and Reform UK reaching No 10 could be for Labour to replace leader.
"We are in the fight of our times and I intend to be at the forefront," he declared.
The issue for the prime minister is that he will be scrutinised well ahead of then – in a huge set of elections in May throughout the UK. He sought to argue, maybe excessively, that they are about who runs local authorities, and who runs the governments in Holyrood or Cardiff – and unrelated to Westminster.
Accurate – up to a point. But even though he may not want to admit it, No 10 will be held accountable by those elections too.
Despite this, Sir Keir suggesting that there were no circumstances under which he would resign, should a his colleagues challenged him for the job, should those elections prove very poor for Labour.
He attempted to rationalise his low poll ratings by saying the electorate was reasonably anxious for things to get better. He tried to persuade me, and the nation, that the coming months would be a change.
The economy would strengthen notwithstanding rising unemployment, he argued, when strategies the administration enacted during their initial rocky year began to take effect.
His big message is that soon the country will "see an improvement".
The PM may have spoken with more energy than observed from him for a while – calmer, maybe, with a longer slot to talk.
But despite encountering pressure from many directions for a more decisive approach, with greater political clarity, more vigour, more speed and more immediacy, his arguments were well-known ones.
When he finds himself in this much political peril, is a different approach required a change of tack?
No administration, and especially not one that has been struggling in the polls for many months, has everything its as desired.
The Prime Minister's problems are not only because governing is hard, but because he and his colleagues have made mistakes, even in the last few weeks.
The PM admitted that he was sorry for saying he was "pleased" to see the return of the Egyptian-British activist Alaa Abd El Fattah to the UK following an backlash when statements he'd previously made – including calls for Zionists and police to be killed – came to light.
Starmer attributed it to "the system" for failing to identify what the activist had said before – a fancier way of saying not my fault.
And he is facing clear political perils as the year progresses. His alliance with the US president entails a new complication after Trump's intervention on Venezuela.
Having interviewed Sir Keir Starmer, a former human rights lawyer who was against the war in Iraq, over his career, the notion he would be content with these events seems implausible.
He asserted he was a "lifelong advocate of international law" but we "just do not have the full picture at the moment".
Opponents demanded denounce it before we spoke. And the administration is likely to face increased demands to give an definitive view in Parliament in the next few days.
There has also long been bubbling tension in the Labour ranks to revisit some of the results of Brexit.
The PM rejects he's pursuing that, but his new firmer plan to move closer with the European trading bloc – the huge economic European trading zone – will probably trigger howls that he is going back on his vow never to try to reverse the results that stemmed from Brexit.
A move to cosy up to more of the single market will delight many on his backbenches, but it is easy fodder for Reform and the Conservatives to
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Laurie Johnson
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| 04 Sep 2026